Know Thine Enemy, A guide to debating Trinitarians.
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Posted: Mar 6 2003, 10:30 PM  

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Five Simple Mistakes - and How to Avoid Them


Before launching an attack on the Trinity, it is essential that we understand how the Trinity is defined, where it came from, how it developed into the form that is commonly taught today, how it is defended, why it is problematic, and on what basis it may be reasonably criticised. Many anti-Trinitarians – including some Christadelphians – make the mistake of assuming that the Trinity is a simple concept, which may be easily refuted by an appeal to basic proof texts. This is a dangerous fallacy. The Trinity is a highly complex doctrine with an ancient legacy of church tradition and academic support. We must ensure that we have done our homework before approaching the subject.

I have seen enthusiastic anti-Trinitarians hurling themselves into a theological debate, armed with nothing more than a few passages of Scripture and a vague idea that “the Trinity is just plain wrong”. In seconds, their basic argument is demolished, their ignorance of the doctrine exposed, and their credibility cut to ribbons by a masterful counter-offensive. The lesson is simple: we cannot expect to succeed unless we know exactly who the enemy is and what weapons he has at his disposal.

Anti-Trinitarians often fail to prove their case because (a) they just don’t know enough about the Trinity and (b) their understanding of the Trinity is flawed.

The most common errors are:

  1. Assuming that Trinitarians believe in three gods.

  2. Assuming that if Jesus is God, he must also be the Holy Spirit, etc.

  3. Assuming that a simple appeal to the original Greek or Hebrew will be enough to refute the Trinitarian position.

  4. Assuming that acceptance of the Trinity constitutes tacit approval of Catholicism.

  5. Assuming that the Trinity is based upon paganism.


Firstly, the Trinity is not a doctrine of three gods. It is a doctrine of one god who consists of three persons.

Secondly, the Trinity teaches that although all the three persons of the Godhead are all God, they each exist as separate identities.

Thirdly, the Greek and Hebrew do not always - of themselves alone - provide us with a ready-made refutation. Each word must be read in context, and cross-referenced with other occurrences of that word in Scripture.

Fourthly, Trinitarians come in many different flavours, most of which are not Catholic. Drawing connections between Catholicism and Trinitarianism and then accusing Trinitarian Protestants of “guilt by association”, is (a) a pointless exercise, and (b) a fallacy of equivocation. (Protestant Trinitarians don't care about the "Catholic connection" - and in any case, you're simply being rude by trying to suggest that they've accepted a uniquely "Catholic" concept.)

Fifthly, the historical record of Trinitarianism clearly shows that it did not begin as a pagan idea.

Identify Your Foe


In order for the non-Trinitarian to succeed in his debates, he must first know his enemy. By ensuring that he has a correct understanding of his opponent's position, he will not waste time with irrelevant arguments.

Anyone who has spent a considerable amount of time debating Trinitarians will know that it is possible to ask a question and receive two entirely different answers from two different Trinitarians. Some will agree with your interpretation of a proof text; others will reject it out of hand. Some will dip into the Old Testament for their proof texts; others will use the NT only. Some will be Sola Scriptura; others will make reference to "sacred tradition", citing the works of the Early Church Fathers. (Still others will avoid using proof texts at all!)

We see therefore that not all Trinitarians are the same - and by extension, we realise that not all Trinitarians can be approached in exactly the same way. But how do they differ - and how can you tell? What makes one Trinitarian different from another? Are their differences reflective of a consistent theological pattern, or are they purely coincidental? Above all: is it important to know the differences between Trinitarians?

The simple answer to all of these questions is "Yes, there are consistent differences between Trinitarians, and they can be easily identified. These differences are themselves the result of different epistemological backgrounds, different exegetical methods, different hermeneutics and different denominations."

All Trinitarians can be classified into three basic groups. These will be defined in subsequent posts.

The Type I Trinitarian


The Type I Trinitarian believes that the Trinity is partially revealed (some will say "strongly hinted at") in the OT, and properly revealed in the NT. He sees the Trinity everywhere (even in his breakfast cereal.) If his exegesis results in a Scriptural contradiction, he will argue that the NT takes precedence over the OT, because in his opinion:

  1. The OT authors didn't really know what they were writing (even though God was inspiring them to write it.)

  2. The people of the OT didn't understand the "hints" of "tri-unity" that God was dropping all over the place, which is why their Christology fails to reflect the "tri-unity" of God.

  3. The inevitable consequence of these two problems (above) is that the OT does not contain an articulated doctrine of the Trinity, although it does support the concept of the triune god when carefully examined through the "enlightened" eyes of a Christian.

This allows him to re-interpret OT passages which are cited in the NT and claim that they are being "re-applied" or "extended" to meet the particular requirements of his Christology.

Examples of Type I Trinitarian proof texts include:

  • Genesis 1:26 - "Let us make man in our image..."

  • Psalm 45:6 -"Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever..."

  • Isaiah 9:6 - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

  • Micah 5:2.
    But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.


Blatant abuse of context is the normative hermeneutic for Type I Trinitarians.

The Type II Trinitarian


The Type II Trinitarian takes the middle road.

He argues:

  • That the Trinity is not at all revealed in the OT (though some will say that the "concepts" or "blueprints" are there.)

  • That the Trinity is not quite fully revealed in the NT (though all will say that the deity of Christ is clearly articulated there.)

He rejects some (but not necessarily all) of the proof texts which the Type I Trinitarian supports (especially those which are taken from the OT), because he believes that the NT brought a "new revelation" about Christ, which was unknown by the OT authors.

His arguments are usually established on the following predicates:

  • The "doctrinal development" hypothesis - that doctrine develops over time, being defined piece by piece, rather than being taught as a complete whole, right from the start.

  • The "new covenant" hypothesis - that the Christians (being part of the new covenant) have replaced the Jews as God's chosen people, and have received a revelation about God (to whit, His alleged tri-unity) which the Jews were incapable of receiving.

  • The "new revelation" hypothesis - that the work of Christ necessarily resulted in a new doctrine of Christ and therefore a new Christology. This Christology could never have been known before this time because it could never have been taught before this time - and it could not have been taught before this time because nobody could have understood it without the immediate context of Christ's ministry. In other words, this "new revelation" that the Jewish Messiah was actually God, could only be taught at a time when the alleged "God-man" was on Earth to teach it and ensure that his followers understood it.

It is important to realise that the second predicate is not universal. There are many Type II Trinitarians who believe that the Jews were not displaced by the Christians, whilst still believing that they (the Jews) could not have received the message of the triune god (for whatever reason.) Phillip Schaff was a classic example of a Type II Trinitarian, rejecting the alleged Christological significance of Genesis 1:26, and arguing that the the deity of Christ was not taught (or even suggested) before the NT.

Standard Type II Trinitarian proof texts include:

  • Matthew 1:23.
    Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

  • Matthew 9:2.
    And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.

  • John 8:58.
    Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

  • Colossians 2:9.
    For in him [Christ] dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

The Type III Trinitarian (Part I)


As the most sophisticated product of the Trinitarian evolutionary tree, the Type III Trinitarian is even more cautious in his approach to the Scriptures than the Type II Trinitarian.

Here he follows the advice of Metzger and Coogan (both Trinitarian scholars) in the Oxford Companion to the Bible, where they write:

    While there are other New Testament texts where God, Jesus, and the Spirit are referred to in the same passage (e.g., Jude 20-21), it is important to avoid reading the Trinity into places where it does not appear. An example is 1 Peter 1.1-2.

The Type III Trinitarian rejects many of the standard Trinitarian proof texts (even those found in the NT.) He argues that the deity of Christ was not fully revealed until after the zenith of the 1st Century Christian community, while the Trinity itself took centuries to develop. Stepping confidently beyond Scripture in search of his "proofs", he frequently transcends the Bible in favour of the Early Church Fathers. His argument tends to be more historical than Biblical.

The Type III Trinitarian freely embraces the work of the Hellenists (Martyr, Athenagoras, Origen, Tertullian, etc.) as the next logical step in the study of Scripture, bringing clarity to the NT in a way that the apostles could not (or so he believes.) Like the Type II Trinitarian, he always interprets the OT through the lens of the NT, presuming:

  1. That the OT cannot stand by itself.

  2. That the Messianic statements of the OT must be "extended" by the light which is shed on them by the NT.

In theory, this may sound quite reasonable. But in practice, it means that he superimposes his interpretation of the NT onto the OT (a sort of reverse-exegesis) and concludes that whatever the OT means, it must mean the same as his interpretation of the NT.

To put it another way:

  • He uses the NT to interpret the OT.

  • He uses the Early Church Fathers to interpret the NT.

  • Having satfisfied himself that his interpretation of the NT is the correct one, he then examines the OT for places where it appears to conflict with his interpretation of the NT, and "corrects" it by reinterpreting it in such a way as to conform with his interpretation of the NT.


To be fair, this is the standard approach among Trinitarians, regardless of which "Type" they belong to. (A possible exception is the Type I Trinitarian, who relies far less on the Early Church Fathers than the Type II or III.) But let the reader judge if this is how God intended us to study His Word...

As with the Type I & II Trinitarians, the Type III Trinitarian interprets the NT through the lens of Hellenic philosophy, superimposing unBiblical terms onto carefully-selected proof texts. But in contrast to them, his argument relies almost entirely on the "doctrinal development" hypothesis, the "new revelation" hypothesis, and frequently (though not always) on the "Scripture is not inerrant, but the essential message remains untainted" hypothesis.

The Type III Trinitarian (Part II)


The Type III Trinitarian subscribes to a Christology that is built on a broad foundation of general principles, rather than a handful of proof texts (as the Type I and II Trinitarians are so fond of doing.) Far from relying on Biblical passages to support his dogma, he is often a staunch opponent of Sola Scriptura, avoiding the proof text method altogether and arguing:

  • That proof-texting is too subjective a method for the definition of doctrine.

  • That a proof-text debate favours the superior debator, rather than the superior argument.

  • That proof-texting is a pointless exercise anyway, since there is no direct evidence in Scripture for the central planks of Trinitarian Christology. ("It was", he will claim, "a later, extra-Biblical revelation; a divine mystery, graciously bestowed upon the fathers of the Church by Almighty God.")

With this in mind, it should come as no surprise to us that Type III Trinitarians appear most frequently among the ranks of the older, more traditional denominations - particularly those with a hierarchy and a high regard for church tradition.

Thus:

  • Karl Rahner - Catholic.

  • Adolf Harnack - Lutheran.

  • H. A. W. Meyer - Lutheran.

  • Stuart G. Hall - Presyberian.

  • J. A. T. Robinson - Anglican.

  • Michael Schmaus - Catholic.

  • Edmund Fortman - Catholic.

  • John Calvin (who tended to slide back and forth between the Type II and Type III positions) - Calvinist.

For the reasons already given, it is not possible to show an example of a standard Type III Trinitarian proof text. Instead, we must look to standard Type III Trintiarian statements as an example of their approach to Scripture and the conclusions they derive from it.

Thus:

  • The Old Testament tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.... There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead.... Even to see in the Old Testament suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the Trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers...

    The Jews never regarded the spirit as a person; nor is there any solid evidence that any Old Testament writer held this view. . . . The Holy Spirit is usually presented in the Synoptics and in Acts as a divine force or power. ... Although this spirit is often described in personal terms, it seems quite clear that the sacred writers never conceived or presented this spirit as a distinct person.

    Fortman, Edmund J. (1972), The Triune God, Baker Book House, pp. xv, 8, 9.


  • The mystery of the Trinity, as God has told it to us, is the mystery of three divine persons, really distinct, in one and the same divine nature: coequal, coeternal, consubstantial, one God. Of these persons, the Second proceeds from the First by an eternal generation; the Third proceeds from the First and the Second by an eternal spiration.

    There is absolutely no way in which we could have come to this knowledge of ourselves. It had to be told us by God. It is told vaguely, dimly in the obscure words of the Old Testament, as though to prepare the mind for the terrific impact of so great a truth; then, in the New Testament, there is the clear statement both of the trinity of persons and their identity of nature; finally, in the declarations of the Church, the mystery is stated with a clear-cut brevity that staggers the mind. This is the only source of our knowledge of the Blessed Trinity -- - the authority of God -- only God could know of it, only God could tell of it; He has told us and we bend our minds in humbly grateful belief.


    [...]

    The Trinity is a mystery; no doubt about it. Unless we had been told of its existence, we would never have suspected such a thing. Moreover, now that we know that there is a Trinity, we cannot understand it. The man who attempts to unravel the mystery is in the position of a near-sighted man straining his eyes from the Eastern Shore of Maryland for a glimpse of Spain. We cannot probe the depths of the ocean of divinity with the foot-rule of the human intellect.

    Farrell, Walter (1938-1942), A Companion to the Summa.


  • The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the OT ... It is not, as already seen, directly and immediately the word of God. ... The formulation 'one God in three persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.
    New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967 edition, Vol. XIV, pp. 306, 304.)


For further examples, see here.

Seven Simple Techniques - and How to Employ Them



  1. Familiarise yourself with the Five Simple Mistakes.
    And avoid them.

  2. Dispense with irrelevant arguments and avoid straw man fallacies.
    There is no point in presenting (or attacking) an argument which has no bearing on your opponent's position. For example, do not defend Sola Scriptura unnecessarily, and do not accuse him of accepting "Catholic doctrines" just because he believes in the Trinity.

  3. Do not respond with piecemeal rebuttals; present whole arguments and complete counter-arguments.
    Responding with a half-finished rebuttal is dangerous; you may have overlooked something, and you may soon regret it. The context of an opponent's argument can sometimes be neglected if you fail to address it as a whole. This will expose you to accusations of unfair tactics, and erode your credibility in the eyes of your opponent. In worst case scenarios, it can leave you with a patchwork rebuttal which simply does not hold together.

  4. Do not allow yourself to be arbitrarily categorised.
    Familiarise yourself with the basic Christological definitions (see here
    ) and refuse to accept any definition which does not accurately represent your views. For example, if you're not an Arian, nobody should be calling you "Arian"; if you're not a Universalist Unitarian, nobody should be calling you a Universalist Unitarian. You must be particuarly firm on this point. By the same token, avoid misrepresenting your opponent. Turnabout is fair play.

  5. Do not allow yourself to be intimidated by vast amounts of material.
    Take a little time to distinguish the relevant from the irrelevant, point out the irrelevant, explain why you have no intention of addressing it, and start work on the relevant. If this takes time, do it anyway. If it takes more time than you have immediately available, make an agreement with your opponent and work on it in stages until you have finished. It is important to let your opponent know that you cannot be defeated by sheer quantity. Quality is everything - and if his argument does not consist of quality material, his argument will not stand.

  6. Where necessary, adapt your style of argument to match your opponent's views - but do not compromise your argument for the sake of achieving a temporal consensus.
    The following guidelines may be helpful. Bear in mind that they are to be used only as a general rule of thumb; they are by no means universal:

    • If he is a Type I Trinitarian, be prepared for a myriad of proof texts from all over the place. These will be presented as examples of "Places where Jesus is called 'God'", or "Places where the Bible teaches that God is more than one person." Take careful note of any logical fallacies, and seek to preclude an argument on the basis of these alone. It will spare you a great deal of unnecessary debate.

    • If he is a Type II Trinitarian, be prepared for a systematic argument which combines OT proof texts with NT proof texts and occasionally draws on the Early Church Fathers. Be on your guard for the "We must interpret the OT with the NT" fallacy, and take steps to counteract it. (Powerful ammunition can be found in the Pauline epistles - particularly in the book of Hebrews.)

    • If he is a Type III Trinitarian, be prepared for a heavy assault on your OT proof texts and a complex discussion of early Church history (with particular reference to the Arian debate of the 4th Century.) Don't allow yourself to be drawn into a false sense of security by the fact that his argument makes little use of Scripture. This does not necessarily assist your case, since you will be required to address the history in detail. Exchanges with Type III Trinitarians almost invariably descend into epistemological debates (i.e. debates concerning one's basis of belief.) Make sure that you know exactly what this involves.

    • If he rejects Sola Scriptura, it is best to inform him that you have no intention of debating the Trinity unless he agrees to present arguments on the basis of Scripture alone. If he will not do this, tell him that there will be no debate without consensus on that point. Debates in which one party employs Sola Scriptura while the other does not, are (for the most part) entirely fruitless. You will be talking past each other for 90% of the time, and screaming in frustration for the remaining 10%.


  7. Do not allow your opponent to advance a point unchallenged.
    For example, if he says...

    "The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all called God; Phil. 1:2 John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9 Acts 5:3-4."

    ...stop to examine every proof text in turn. If a proof text does not say what he claimed it would say, point this out and ask him to replace this proof text with another.

    For example, if he says...

    "This verse tells us that Jesus is eternal."

    ...don't just agree with him - ask yourself if you believe that this is what the verse is saying. Even if you can see how he arrived at this conclusion, remind him that he still has to vindicate it.

    Thus:

    "Where does it say that Jesus is eternal? I don't see this written anywhere. Which particular word are you taking your argument from, anyway? Does this have something to do with the Greek?"

    Do this until he has provided a list of proof texts which actually contain the statements which he himself has made. Then address yourself to those texts. If you are presented with a long list of ready-made proof texts (as is frequently the case), just grit your teeth and wade through them all. Remember, even though he has presented them, the onus is still on your opponent to explain them. He must prove that they are necessarily related, confirm that they are not contradictory, knit them together as a unified whole, and support his Christology with an appeal to the finished product.

    One of the quickest ways to lose a debate is to accept your opponent's mindset as valid (even if you are only doing so for the sake of the argument) and read his proof texts in the context of that mindset. Understanding his point of view is perfectly legitimate; indulging it is not. If you indulge it, you (a) reduce the force of your argument, (b) leave room for your opponent to slide insupportable premises into his side of the debate, and © render your own proof texts redundant.

    A classic example is John 1:1, 14. Trinitarians seize upon the words "...and the word was God", then leap immediately to verse 14: "...the word was made flesh." By pole-vaulting over the context in between these two verses, they hope to prove that Jesus is "God-made-flesh", thereby vindicating the incarnation. If we ignore such an equivocation, we effectively grant it our tacit support. And what is the result of this indulgence? Well, if we have allowed that Jesus is the "word" referred to in verse 1, and we have allowed that Jesus is also the "word made flesh" of verse 14, then we have left ourselves absolutely no room for debate... and the Trinitarian has already won. (Checkmate!)

    But let us stop for a moment and consider the two verses in the light of their respective contexts. Why should we accept that the Johannine prologue can be reduced to verses 1 & 14? Why should we accept that verse 1 refers to Jesus, when in fact there is absolutely no mention made of him here? Why should we accept that by wrenching two entirely unrelated verses out of their respective contexts and slapping them together, the Trinitarian has proved his claim? Why should we ignore the clear delineation between "the word" (a simple concept) and the "word-made-flesh" (a complex one)? That is a fallacy of equivocation. It would be like reading "furniture" every time we read the word "wood." It just doesn't work. (Check, block/counter-check and checkmate!)

    Instead of indulging your opponent's position (i.e. just ignoring it and hoping that you'll agree on something else), run it through a mental checklist:

    • Is it Scriptural? (By which I mean derived from, and/or predicated upon, Scripture.)

    • Is it rational?

    • Is it logical?

    Any theological argument, premise or mindset which fails to meet all of these criteria, can be safely rejected. Any interpretation of Scripture which is predicated on the assumption that these criteria can be legitimately transcended, must necessarily be false.
 
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