[Essaias]

I posted this in the eschatology section, and got several nice conjectures on the termini of the seventy weeks.

However, I was actually asking about the term "weeks". Are Keil and Delitsch (sp?) correct in saying there is no suggestion at all of a week in the term? or is Elliott and others right who say the term is the basic term for a seven day week?

Is it "week"? Or "seven"?

peace-

[Flappie]

It's derived from 7, yes, and from all the contexts it seems obvious it's a timeframe.

[Landmark]

although I'm no expert on languages...i do believe the literal interpretation is "seventy sevens"

the word in Hebrew is "shabuwa" Strongs 7620....notice how its used in Genesis 29:28 "And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also."

Jacob worked an additional seven YEARS for Rachel, and yet I find it interesting the translators made this a "week", literally, a 'seven'....BUT it does give further credence to the "day for year" interpretation of historicism...however, this word is used in other places, denoting a literal week, so I guess it shows that the word really means just 'seven', and its up to context to help us out on the interpretation

you might be interested in checking this link out, it does a fantastic job imo of explaining the seventy 'sevens' prophecy scripturally...

here

This post has been edited by Landmark: 20 May 2005 - 01:04 AM

[Flappie]

Read the verses before. The week fulfilled wasn't Rachel's, but Leah's, as in their marriage feast. Laban was basically telling Jacob not to go and sulk that he didn't have Rachel, but to give Leah her festive week.

See judges 14:12-17 for example.

[InChristAlways]

Essaias, on May 19 2005, 05:54 AM, said:

I posted this in the eschatology section, and got several nice conjectures on the termini of the seventy weeks.

However, I was actually asking about the term "weeks". Are Keil and Delitsch (sp?) correct in saying there is no suggestion at all of a week in the term? or is Elliott and others right who say the term is the basic term for a seven day week?

Is it "week"? Or "seven"?

peace-

Hi. Actually I am trying to harmonize the 70 '7's" to Isaiah 28, Dani 11/12 and revelation.

Isaiah 28: 14 Therefore hear the word of the LORD, you scornful men, Who rule this people who [are] in Jerusalem, 15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we are in agreement.

There is only a 42 month period, 1260 days, time times half a time mentioned in Revelation with a Sacrficial meal showing in chapt 19, the Supper of the Great God.
This either has to be Jerusalem in the first century or Jerusalem in the future. This site actually had an interesting "biblical" way of looking at those "weeks", as I am trying to fit the Olivet Discourse and Daniel 11 into it.

He believes that "1 singular week" is a summary of the 70 "weeks", as it just stands out there. Or it could represent the final 1260/1335 days in revelation, depending on when the temple is actually measured in Chapt 11, but in either case, revelation is a very short period of time, as shown in Paul.

Roman 9: 27 Isaiah[10:22] also cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, The remnant will be Saved. 28 For He will finish the work and cut [it] short in righteousness, Because the LORD will make a short work upon the earth." [ (Young) Isaiah 10:22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, A Remnant doth Return of it, A consumption* determined, [an]Overflowing washing [with] righteousness.]

http://www.bibleinsight.com/70p2.html

Daniel 9:24 Seventy 'weeks' (jubilees) are determined for your people
and your holy city,

to restrain transgression,
to seal up sins,
to atone for iniquity,
to bring in everlasting righteousness,
to seal up vision and prophecy and
to anoint the Most Holy.


:25 Know then and understand from the issuing of the word
to turn (from fighting/repent) and build Jerusalem, up until
an anointed one, a ruler (the desolator), seven 'weeks'
(jubilees) and sixty-two 'weeks' (jubilees). Again it
will be built broad and golden (New Jerusalem) even in
times of distress (the latter days).


:26 And after the sixty and two 'weeks' (jubilees) shall
be cut off (from the city) an anointed one (the Elijah
sent to warn) and there will be nothing to him (in the
city). And the city and the sanctuary shall overthrow
the people of an arriving ruler (the desolator). And
his (the desolator's) end with a flood, up until the
end war; desolations are decreed.


:27 And He (God) shall cause to prevail a great covenant
one week (70 jubilees + Great Tribulation). And in the
middle of the week He (God) shall make cease sacrifice
and offering and upon an extremity (of the lopsided week,
ie the last half, the Tribulation) abominations, a
desolator up until a complete destruction. And what
decreed shall pour forth on the desolator.


This week is singular!

http://newjerusalemm...s.com/index.php?

This post has been edited by InChristAlways: 20 May 2005 - 04:43 PM

[Landmark]

Flappie, on May 20 2005, 09:18 AM, said:

Read the verses before. The week fulfilled wasn't Rachel's, but Leah's, as in their marriage feast. Laban was basically telling Jacob not to go and sulk that he didn't have Rachel, but to give Leah her festive week.

See judges 14:12-17 for example.

scratch all that stuff about Genesis, SORRY man, I totally didn't catch that, i was thinking it was talking about his time working for Laban...

man do I feel dumb

[Flappie]

Landmark, on May 21 2005, 02:09 PM, said:

man do I feel dumb

Not to worry, it happens to the best of us.