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> He And God Are One? And What Is Dry Baptism?, For those interested in contributing.
rokos
post Dec 30 2004, 07:22 PM
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I consider myself a disciple of iaoshua. I believe my progress is due to letting “iaoue” teach me away from any preconcived ideas. I wish you are still open to seek further since my growth seems to agree with most of your observations.

Nevertheless here’s where I stumble.

1. In order for you to indicate that iaoshua didn’t pre-existed you must have had to eliminate or change the original book of hebrews and not have explained so many other sincere Biblical references. His own name means “iaoue became salvation” and a disciple asked Him to show them the Father. Iaoue is whatever he wants to become. He is not limited by your boxed ideas. He is what He is.

2. Do you know the deeper meaning of baptism? Have you ever thought of the posibility of a dry baptism? If it’s within my means, I do it. Nevertheless, I don’t see this requirement widely stated through out the New Testament as it should have been, if this was the case. It was known and practiced by those jews that were into it even before Jesus’ resurrection. In the story of Cornelius, “iaoue” showed us that He doesn’t need baptism in water to save.

Please address my statements point by point clearly and sincerely whenever you are ready.

Keep seeking,

Rokos
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post Dec 30 2004, 07:55 PM
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Why do you spell it like iaoue?


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post Dec 30 2004, 08:04 PM
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Hi Rokos, welcome. mf_wave.gif

Firstly, I'm a little confused. Who is "iaoshua" and who is "iaoue"? People here speak English so they probably dont know who you mean.
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post Dec 30 2004, 09:19 PM
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To reach to the greeks the writers used greek and in doing so they must have had to come with a translation for the word Yawheh (the only true god) that would make some sense to the greeks. So, instead of using the name Yawhew (pronounced rather from the original iaoue) that the Creator gave them to use, they used the greek word Theos (which is any deity). Jesus as well is far from the original aramaic/hebrew name he actually had: Yahushua (pronounced rather from the original iaoushua). I rather not water down iaoue's preference.

PS- iaoushua = iaoue became salvation


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post Dec 30 2004, 09:28 PM
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So ...

Iaoue = Yahweh
Iaoushua = Jesus

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post Dec 30 2004, 11:11 PM
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I have merged the duplicate thread from the Christology section into this one now, and have removed the double posts. A hotlink has been left in Christology so that people will be able to find this one easily.


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post Dec 31 2004, 01:50 AM
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Actually, the greek versions is "Iesous." Which, according to Greek gematria, symbolizes 888, the perfect number.


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