Signs of the Times.....Tetrads, etc
Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:34 PM
are excellent. The information he brings out has brought me to a whole new understanding of the feasts and what they represent (God's plan of salvation incorporating the first and second appearance of the Messiah) and also a much deeper understanding of particular events in Jesus' life. Well worth a listen!
Mark has also carried out much research in relation to the solar eclipses and lunar tetrads that will occur on the feast days in 2014-2015. Will they herald the return of Christ, or some other major event in relation to Israel as previous tetrads on feast days have done? I guess we will have to wait and see. Interestingly enough, if we check nasas website we can see that we will also experience a tetrad on the feast days in 2032/2033. This tetrad will be exactly 2000 years since Christs death. Personally, I feel that there is mounting evidence that this could be the year of Christs return as it would complete the patterns that we see in scripture.
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But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone
...I take that to mean that he didn't know the date of his return. I don't see how it can be interpreted to say the opposite. The context is clearly the day of his return (see the next verse). It would have to be taken completely out of context in order to be applied to any of the feasts.
How many failed predictions of the date of the return of Christ will it take before we realise it's not something we are expected or permitted to know?
Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:45 AM
Anyway, a couple of points brought out through a very basic bit of internet research..there ar hundreds of sites discussing these issues in detail.....I'm 100% sure that we have been told the day that Christ will gather his bride, ie Yom Teruah.....its only the exact date and hour that we cannot be sure of.
1) The relationship of the verse you quoted with the Jewish wedding feast, portrayed in the marriage of Christ and his bride......eg
"Once the Mohar was paid and the Ketubah was signed, there was a groom’s speech of promise. He would say, “I have to go, I’m going to prepare the Chuppah (bridal’s chamber), a place for you at my father’s house.” This tradition is kept even in our day. The groom went back to his father’s house to build an addition to the existing dwelling, where he would receive his wife in about one or two years. In modern Israel you can see many additions that have been made for this purpose. The bride would then say, “Do not go,” and the groom would respond, “It is better for you that I’ll go but I will come back.” “When?” she asked. And the groom would respond, “ I do not know, nor the servant, only my father knows the day”. 4
Meanwhile the bridegroom prepared the Chuppah, and the bride had to be ready. The groom sent a chaperone or servant to keep an eye on her, to insure that she would be cared for and watchful for the return of the groom. This alertness was manifested at night, because usually the bridegroom would show up at midnight. She had to have her oil lamp burning all the time. The bride also had other virgins helping and serving her; they were also anticipating the wedding.
With regards to the Chuppah, there is a parallel in the Scriptures.
“Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.” (John 14:1-4)
“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.” (Mark 13:32-37)
2) The day and hour that no man knoweth...... is actually a direct allusion to the feast of Yom Teruah. If you study the feasts it becomes clear that this is the day that Christ will return for his bride, the dead will be raised etc. eg
"To begin to understand this enigmatic phrase, we need to understand that the calendar was controlled by the Sanhedrin, at the command of HaShem. The Great Court was commanded to sanctify the New Moons and to intercalate the year by adding an additional month seven out of nineteen years. This meant that the Sanhedrin was responsible for setting the date for each of the festivals. HaShem commanded, for example, that Pesach occurs on the fifteenth day of the first month. However, the Sanhedrin determined when the first month began, thus they actually set the date for this first festival.
The Sanhedrin of Yehuda HaNasi actually sanctified all of the new moons until a greater court should arise. Thus, all of our new moons are currently set on a fixed calendar.
Originally, however, the New Moon was not fixed by astronomical calculations, but was solemnly proclaimed after witnesses had testified to the reappearance of the crescent of the moon. On the 30th of each month, the members of the Sanhedrin assembled in a courtyard in Jerusalem, named Beit Ya'azek, where they waited to receive the testimony of two reliable witnesses; they then sanctified the New Moon based on their calculations and the testimony of these two witnesses. If the moon's crescent was not seen on the 30th day, the New Moon was automatically celebrated on the 31st day (which was the first day of the next month).
Normally we know several days in advance, the date of the next festival. However, there is one festival which actually falls on the new moon. The only festival that falls on a new moon is Rosh HaShanah, AKA Yom Teruah.
Yom Teruah, therefore, is the festival that, "No one knows the day or hour that it starts, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father". Until the Sanhedrin sanctifies the New Moon of the seventh month, no one know when Yom Teruah will begin."
The issue is therefore to try and figure which Yom Teruah will incorporatte the resurrection......and I think 2033 is most probable (though 2015 looks interesting too lol)..... unless of course the time periods laid down in the bible are totally meaningless.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:02 PM
But I'm not massively fussed about it. If you believe there is something here, I don't have a problem. Happy to leave it here.
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