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[surrendersacrifice]

Marriage is a covenant of love which unites husband and wife to form a family unit. This covenant is sealed by God. Therefore, no one can break this covenant. Furthermore, they are no longer two, but one flesh. (Matt. 19:6). The relationship between husband and wife therefore is stronger than that between a father and his son or between a mother and her daughter. Therefore, even if one divorces one’s spouse, he/she is still remains his/her spouse until death. Furthermore, it does not matter how bad one's spouse is, he/she is still that person's spouse; just as irrespective of how bad one's son is he is still that person's son. Therefore, we have to love our spouse just as Christ loves His Church (Ephesians 5:25) and forgive one another without any limit (Matthew 18:21-22); just as God forgives us. Because of our sinfulness there are always going to be stressful situations in a marriage. However, Jesus who came to heal us gives us strength and graces to live a Christian marriage. Therefore, when we follow Jesus by denying our very self and taking up our cross (Matt 19:11) we will find hope where there is hopeless, love where there is hate, peace where there is discord, and see the face of God in the pain and suffering of our spouse.

[Naphal]

If God can put away his wife and marry another than so can a man or a woman if justified.

surrendersacrifice, on Dec 6 2009, 05:52 AM, said:

Marriage is a covenant of love which unites husband and wife to form a family unit. This covenant is sealed by God. Therefore, no one can break this covenant. Furthermore, they are no longer two, but one flesh. (Matt. 19:6). The relationship between husband and wife therefore is stronger than that between a father and his son or between a mother and her daughter. Therefore, even if one divorces one’s spouse, he/she is still remains his/her spouse until death. Furthermore, it does not matter how bad one's spouse is, he/she is still that person's spouse; just as irrespective of how bad one's son is he is still that person's son. Therefore, we have to love our spouse just as Christ loves His Church (Ephesians 5:25) and forgive one another without any limit (Matthew 18:21-22); just as God forgives us. Because of our sinfulness there are always going to be stressful situations in a marriage. However, Jesus who came to heal us gives us strength and graces to live a Christian marriage. Therefore, when we follow Jesus by denying our very self and taking up our cross (Matt 19:11) we will find hope where there is hopeless, love where there is hate, peace where there is discord, and see the face of God in the pain and suffering of our spouse.

[IDF]

surrendersacrifice, on Dec 6 2009, 11:52 PM, said:

Marriage is a covenant of love which unites husband and wife to form a family unit. This covenant is sealed by God. Therefore, no one can break this covenant. Furthermore, they are no longer two, but one flesh. (Matt. 19:6). The relationship between husband and wife therefore is stronger than that between a father and his son or between a mother and her daughter. Therefore, even if one divorces one’s spouse, he/she is still remains his/her spouse until death. Furthermore, it does not matter how bad one's spouse is, he/she is still that person's spouse; just as irrespective of how bad one's son is he is still that person's son. Therefore, we have to love our spouse just as Christ loves His Church (Ephesians 5:25) and forgive one another without any limit (Matthew 18:21-22); just as God forgives us. Because of our sinfulness there are always going to be stressful situations in a marriage. However, Jesus who came to heal us gives us strength and graces to live a Christian marriage. Therefore, when we follow Jesus by denying our very self and taking up our cross (Matt 19:11) we will find hope where there is hopeless, love where there is hate, peace where there is discord, and see the face of God in the pain and suffering of our spouse.

All the more reason to marry the right person first time round, take the time to find your soulmate, and always remember, marriage is the main factor for divorce

[Gary cook]

Christian marriage is a man and woman both BORN -AGAIN!

divorce is such a bad thing, many never get over it! the children really suffer in most cases!

[Jeremy]

Naphal, on Feb 7 2010, 11:56 AM, said:

If God can put away his wife and marry another than so can a man or a woman if justified.

There are countless things God can do which aren't on offer to His creation.

[Naphal]

That's not much of an answer but lets run with it.

So, you believe its a sin to get a divorce and that it would be a further sin to remarry after a divorce. That you are still married to the first person no matter what? God sealed it and its a marriage forever yet God himself can marry and divorce if he chooses?

Jeremy, on Feb 7 2010, 12:08 PM, said:

Naphal, on Feb 7 2010, 11:56 AM, said:

If God can put away his wife and marry another than so can a man or a woman if justified.

There are countless things God can do which aren't on offer to His creation.

[surrendersacrifice]

Naphal, on Feb 7 2010, 12:56 PM, said:

If God can put away his wife and marry another than so can a man or a woman if justified.

surrendersacrifice, on Dec 6 2009, 05:52 AM, said:

Marriage is a covenant of love which unites husband and wife to form a family unit. This covenant is sealed by God. Therefore, no one can break this covenant. Furthermore, they are no longer two, but one flesh. (Matt. 19:6). The relationship between husband and wife therefore is stronger than that between a father and his son or between a mother and her daughter. Therefore, even if one divorces one’s spouse, he/she is still remains his/her spouse until death. Furthermore, it does not matter how bad one's spouse is, he/she is still that person's spouse; just as irrespective of how bad one's son is he is still that person's son. Therefore, we have to love our spouse just as Christ loves His Church (Ephesians 5:25) and forgive one another without any limit (Matthew 18:21-22); just as God forgives us. Because of our sinfulness there are always going to be stressful situations in a marriage. However, Jesus who came to heal us gives us strength and graces to live a Christian marriage. Therefore, when we follow Jesus by denying our very self and taking up our cross (Matt 19:11) we will find hope where there is hopeless, love where there is hate, peace where there is discord, and see the face of God in the pain and suffering of our spouse.

God never divorce anyone. Although we were unfaithful to Him He died for us (including Israel) so that we can come back to Him and have life.

[Naphal]

surrendersacrifice, on Feb 10 2010, 07:34 PM, said:

God never divorce anyone.

Matthew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

First lets establish that it is lawful to divorce if the cause is fornication which covers a multitude of sins, mostly sexual in nature:

4202

4202 porneia {por-ni'-ah}

from 4203; TDNT - 6:579,918; n f

AV - fornication 26; 26

1) illicit sexual intercourse
1a) adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse
with animals etc.
1b) sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
1c) sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,12
2) metaph. the worship of idols
2a) of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the
sacrifices offered to idols


It means to "cheat" on a spouse.

Now, did God divorce a spouse due to "fornication"?

Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

put her away
7971

07971 shalach {shaw-lakh'}

a primitive root; TWOT - 2394; v

AV - send 566, go 73, (send, put,...) forth 54, send away 48, lay 14,
send out 12, put 10, put away 7, cast out 7, stretch out 5,
cast 5, set 5, put out 4, depart 4, soweth 3, loose 3, misc 22; 847

1) to send, send away, let go, stretch out
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to send
1a2) to stretch out, extend, direct
1a3) to send away
1a4) to let loose
1b) (Niphal) to be sent
1c) (Piel)
1c1) to send off or away or out or forth, dismiss, give over, cast out
1c2) to let go, set free
1c3) to shoot forth (of branches)
1c4) to let down
1c5) to shoot
1d) (Pual) to be sent off, be put away, be divorced, be impelled
1e) (Hiphil) to send

[freckle]

surrendersacrifice, on Feb 11 2010, 03:34 AM, said:

God never divorce anyone. Although we were unfaithful to Him He died for us (including Israel) so that we can come back to Him and have life.

God can't die.