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[Bibleortraditions]

Heb. 10:26-27 "For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries." (NKJV)


Can anyone be saved?

What did paul mean because Lord Jesus all sins are foriven but blasphemy against the Holy spirit that is unforgiveble is it blasphemy?

What is to blaspheme against the holy spirit?

If you repent even though you willfully sinned after you received the knowledge of the truth, does it mean there is no more salvation and you are still going to die eternal no matter what you do?

We all have our failings so can we be saved if this is saying what it is saying?

Thank you

[Rebel]

My understanding - any sin can be forgiven if we repent of it.
Willful sin is when you know full well that you are doing a wrong thing, and you still do it. Even willful sins can be forgiven if repented of.

[heshallreign]

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Heb. 10:26-27 "For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries." (NKJV)

If we sin willfully- willfully meaning deliberately.

Basically if we know what God expects of us which puts us out of the "ignorance" category, and we decide that we want to continue to sin. Saying, I don't care what Jesus says, I'll wait for some other way to come to God. I don't want to be baptized and follow this carpenter. Paul is letting us know, there is not another way. Jesus is the sacrifice and if you remain away and sin deliberately, death and destruction await. There is not another way to come to God. Check out Hebrews 6 too!

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Can anyone be saved?

Yes, all they have to do is believe and be baptized. After baptism, God expects us to follow the example of his son. We believe in him, therefore, we believe that the example he set, is the right way to approach God.

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What did paul mean because Lord Jesus all sins are foriven but blasphemy against the Holy spirit that is unforgiveble is it blasphemy?

One place where this is mentioned is Mark 3. Jesus did his works by the power of the most high. People said it was from the Devil. That Jesus was turning evil parlor tricks. If God's power can't convince you, nothing will. There is no forgiveness with unbelief. We can do this today and I'm sure you have heard it...."I'm too sinful, it's too late" WHAT? God is not loving enough, merciful enough to forgive you? With that thinking, you will not come to God and get forgiveness. There can't be forgiveness because they deny God.

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If you repent even though you willfully sinned after you received the knowledge of the truth, does it mean there is no more salvation and you are still going to die eternal no matter what you do?

We all have our failings so can we be saved if this is saying what it is saying?

God will judge righteously, if the person lets go of sin and humbly presents themselves before God and beg mercy, He will be merciful. If they do not...then no. They are not of value because they made it that way. Both ways reject God's awesome power and reject eternal life.

We all sin, we all fall short but.... we dare not deny God can forgive. Nor do we take that for granted. Oops, I sinned, forgive me, oops, forgive me. When do they stop and say...I DON'T want to sin, I want to change?

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Exo 34:6-7
The LORD passed before him and proclaimed, "The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation."

[Bibleortraditions]

A man asked me one day who came to the lecture, that he had a problem with some sin but he did not know how to overcome it, it got me thinking how is sin overcame, Anyone experienced it does it come pass in time, after patience endurance of the impulse of Sinfulflesh that departs for a time and enjoy a clear conscience free from the impulse of the carnal mind?

Luke 4:13

And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

CAN IT ACTUALLY HAPPEN TO US. Or is it forever until our nature is changed?

[Rebel]

We are tempted to sin till death, if that's what you are asking about.

Sometimes we have more temptations than other times.

To overcome sin, we need to fight against it. We have to use every possible help in some cases.

Edited by Rebel, 16 October 2009 - 11:53 PM.

[Corky]

Bibleortraditions, on Oct 16 2009, 06:38 AM, said:

Heb. 10:26-27 "For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries." (NKJV)


Can anyone be saved?

What did paul mean because Lord Jesus all sins are foriven but blasphemy against the Holy spirit that is unforgiveble is it blasphemy?

What is to blaspheme against the holy spirit?

If you repent even though you willfully sinned after you received the knowledge of the truth, does it mean there is no more salvation and you are still going to die eternal no matter what you do?

We all have our failings so can we be saved if this is saying what it is saying?

Thank you

I don't know about you but I have never had a problem in resisting things that I knew was wrong, especially the biggies of murder, theft, adultery etc. I think maybe some people are a little bit nit picky about how they define sin. John says, "whosoever abideth in him sinneth not...He that committeth sin is of the devil...Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin...In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil (I John 3:6,8,9,10).

I think people make it harder than it really is by defining sin in every kind of nit picky way. Just don't do things that you know are wrong, no big deal really - if you go out and do things that you know are wrong on the purpose of doing it because you know it is wrong is a different story and that is what the passage is talking about.

[Jeremy]

In my experience, some sins are dealt with over time. Hopefully by acquiring a consciences about certain issues, recognising temptation when it comes, and learning to behave differently when we see the warning signs, we can choose to deal with issues in a certain way. (And the sins we commit are usually a matter of choice.) I think this is a reasonable expectation for disciples of Christ--we should be maturing, and gradually becoming more like the Master.

That said, there are "besetting sins" we all struggle with, areas of major weakness where we often fail, and which will perhaps always trouble us. These are the areas I found most difficult, because even if I pray to God after I've sinned, I feel I know I'm going to sin again the same way before long. This is what makes me question the genuineness of my repentance, because deep down there's a lot of stuff which hasn't changed at all.

Sometimes I tie myself completely in knots over this, and it gets me really down. But at the end of the day, what choice do I have but to keep trying? This constant round of battle and apparent failure is greatly discouraging, but in my heart I believe that it's the battle itself which is doing me good, not actually the success rate (if you see what I mean). God wants me to keep trying. And if I stop trying, that's really when the battle is lost.

I don't know if that helps very much, but my guess is that most of us feel like this at times. So yes, some issues will be overcome, but ultimately we shouldn't expect to be free from temptation and sin until our bodies are changed by God's mercy at the resurrection and judgement.

[Jeremy]

P.S. Responding to what Corky just said: yes, I'm never tempted to murder someone, but if I hate my brother, that's just as bad. I've never had the opportunity to commit adultery, but I've let my eyes lust many times. These are the areas where the light of Gospel has to shine, not just the "big" things. Life in Christ goes much, much deeper than that.

[Bibleortraditions]

Jeremy, on Oct 17 2009, 07:46 AM, said:

In my experience, some sins are dealt with over time. Hopefully by acquiring a consciences about certain issues, recognising temptation when it comes, and learning to behave differently when we see the warning signs, we can choose to deal with issues in a certain way. (And the sins we commit are usually a matter of choice.) I think this is a reasonable expectation for disciples of Christ--we should be maturing, and gradually becoming more like the Master.

That said, there are "besetting sins" we all struggle with, areas of major weakness where we often fail, and which will perhaps always trouble us. These are the areas I found most difficult, because even if I pray to God after I've sinned, I feel I know I'm going to sin again the same way before long. This is what makes me question the genuineness of my repentance, because deep down there's a lot of stuff which hasn't changed at all.

Sometimes I tie myself completely in knots over this, and it gets me really down. But at the end of the day, what choice do I have but to keep trying? This constant round of battle and apparent failure is greatly discouraging, but in my heart I believe that it's the battle itself which is doing me good, not actually the success rate (if you see what I mean). God wants me to keep trying. And if I stop trying, that's really when the battle is lost.

I don't know if that helps very much, but my guess is that most of us feel like this at times. So yes, some issues will be overcome, but ultimately we shouldn't expect to be free from temptation and sin until our bodies are changed by God's mercy at the resurrection and judgement.

Thank you, you answered very well


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