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Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:34 AM

Doctrines derived from Session 05 Scriptures and Tables

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Matthew 16

John 6

1 Timothy 3

Titus 2

Luke 22

Hebrews 2

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 09:56 AM

Comments by the author of Gospel of Peace, John Pople:

TABLE
  • The characteristics of the devil from this passage are three: must be able to deliver all countries of the world, must comply with scriptural teaching on temptation in James 1 (from within) and Hebrews 4 (Jesus was tempted then the same way we are now)

  • Jesus was tempted by his own desires, his own mind. This is the only possibility that satisfies all the above requirements: THIS IS THE DEVIL Ė a humanís desire not to follow Godís will

  • Notice the closing verse: if the devil leaves and angels come, the devil was not an angel

  • Appreciate the timing of the temptation Ė immediately after Jesus receives the unlimited supply of Godís power at his baptism (Matthew 3:13-16). This is classically characteristic of the human experience: temptation arrives directly we have the opportunity to abuse it

  • Jesus was tempted to give in to natural human desires which were contrary to Godís will: but he disposed of those desires. This is his victory over the devil

  • Note the account in Luke says the devil would come back to Jesus: Ďat an opportune timeí (Luke 4:13)
Matthew 16
  • Peter, a human man, was called Satan. Not possessed by Satan, but actually Satan

  • The reason Peter was called Satan was because he gave in to human temptation to want to fight for Jesus, which was not Godís will
John 6
  • Judas, a human man, was a devil. Not possessed by the devil, but actually a devil

  • The reason Judas was a devil was because he gave in to human temptation to betray Jesus for money
1 Timothy 3
  • Deaconís wives can be devils if they talk maliciously

  • This is because the mouth produces the contents of the heart (see Luke 6:45) and so the devilish behaviour is defined as having evil thoughts in your heart.
Titus 2
  • Older women can be devils if they slander

  • This is because the mouth produces the contents of the heart (see Luke 6:45) and so the devilish behaviour is defined as having evil thoughts in your heart
Luke 22
  • Jesus had in mind the temptation to do his own will: contrary to Godís. But he subdued it and did Godís will anyway!

  • This is how he fought the devil and won!

    (This is also the Ďopportune timeí when the devil returned, as Luke 4:13 said it would.)

Hebrews 2
  • Jesus destroyed the one with the power of death by resisting temptation

  • Luke 22 (the events in the Garden of Gethsemane) shows us the one with the power of death is our innate desire not to follow Godís will

  • Once more: the desire to serve self and abandon Godís will is defined as the devil in the Bible

  • This desire (the devil) was destroyed by Christ and he became the opportunity of life for all men (Romans 5:18)
Notice how the passages from John 6 and Matthew 16 complete the earlier Figure 2 on the Bible representation of the Devil.

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Figure 3: Completion of ĎThe Devilí in the Bible using independent scriptural proofs.

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 10:02 AM

Session 06 - He Took Up Our Infirmities - Notes and Discussion Page will be posted by Friday, 30 November, 2007.

Questions/Discussion Points for Session 05 remain open.




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