I find the censorship on this forum quite unacceptable, and request the moderators to send me a private message stating exactly to what phrases they take exception and why. I note that emotive language and misrepresentations from the biblical literalist side are entirely welcome, suggesting double standards apply.
David, the only thing that has been censored is the belittling which you don't seem to be able to grasp that you do it and do it all the time - the personal attacks on brethren and even that of Jesse2W.
The one on Jesse2W, I will repeat that for you:
would also regard the statemen from Jess2W, whoever he is, that
So, the "double standards" - you mean you wish to "save" people from leaving, yet, in what you say, encourage others away from the faith?
Did you bother to find out who Jesse2W is or do you consider him of no consequence - because that is what you implied?
Jesse2W is interested in our faith and having come to the conclusion that the trinity isn't Biblical etcetera and it would seem changing stance is never an easy road.
The behaviour by several and even the messaging - did any of you stop to think or do you ever think that it may or could have had adverse affects on his (or anyone else's) faith or interest in the things of God - does it matter to you, or only the interest to "beat the drum" for evolution?
Several of you are proselyting - the push to "evolutionise" the brotherhood because of the claim some leave because they believe "evolution is true" though the larger majority of brethren reject this - and also the claim or implied, leaving in droves. There may be also some inaccuracies placed forward from Lectures, but science moves on, and in lectures in science when I was at university, yes, there have been inaccuracies there too – one is not above the other.
Then - BEREA – yet another open thread more or less implying foolishness which, the commencement of the thread about this thread suggests once again the immature behaviour - then the calculating commentary which goes hand in hand (on that note, I hadn't been there for a while - I find it rather tiresome - but thought I would check because of the regularity of undignified comments about the brotherhood - everyone else is wrong, bar the "handful" of brethren – and that is what I find tiresome – none of us have all-inclusive say that we “are right in all things”).
Again, have you ever bothered to consider the many adverse affects on someone who is seeking the Truth of God, or who is a member of our community already?
I will quote this again, and from other discussions - which is fact:
"The words of Paul come to mind 1 Cor 1:19
- “I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE."
I find the whole [discussion on evolution] faith destroying stuff and am very sad for all the “clever” brethren who, some at least, display an arrogance unbecoming of those to be servants of Christ."
And such, has this been displayed here once more?
I will say this again - no-one wants to stifle any discussion on the issues - I always enjoy discussing science but what I don't enjoy, nor others (and one would have thought several would have realised by now) - that attacks on brethren and other members of the forum, those interested in finding truth the behaviour displayed by those promoting evolution is simply not on.
Yet, if you are pulled up for it then you behave again in a less that christ-like way.
I personally have stated before that this is one of the very reasons why if this is what it comes out of such belief, then the aspects of indoctrination and calling peoples intelligence into question (other than ones own) and has been done on many occasions, then there is something radically wrong with the theory, the philosophy - the same as stifling the discussions in class-rooms, which is also occurring and even moves to legislate, that problems within and about the theory are suppressed from the public eye.
Where were you, David, when the discussions about trinity were being had ... was Ken Gilmore or the others who are now viewing the board ?
Nor some of the other issues, yet, this subject is raised and the way several of you have behaved again is in a very unchrist-like manner and how destructive it may have been or is to others.
Do you ever consider that - or you are on a mission and don't care who is destroyed along the way.
If you wish to believe in evolution, then believe it, but also have the common courtesy to allow other opinion - and the belief of God and Creation - His Creation is still very much alive and well, and there are still many in the sciences who believe in OEC and YEC and various other opinion too.
Again, if there is discussion, then this is fine but it doesn't seem to work this way with several.
If you can't engage in discussion without the usual (which you are well aware of - as well as Servetus and others) then please refrain from doing so.
Again, my apologies to Jesse2W, however, some clarification about the supposed “censorship” was needed.